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		<title>By: Carman Boley</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12305</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carman Boley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know what you mean about &quot;favorites shelves&quot;, I only buy my very favorite books. The other ones I just get from the library. Besides, it makes me happy to know that my favorites are on my shelf, in my room, waiting for me to read them again. 
I love it that you took the opportunity to help someone with their book. How you took the time out of your schedule to help someone who doesn&#039;t have as much experience as you. It shows that you have the &quot;heart of a teacher&quot;, as Dave Ramsey would say. I love that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean about &#8220;favorites shelves&#8221;, I only buy my very favorite books. The other ones I just get from the library. Besides, it makes me happy to know that my favorites are on my shelf, in my room, waiting for me to read them again.<br />
I love it that you took the opportunity to help someone with their book. How you took the time out of your schedule to help someone who doesn&#8217;t have as much experience as you. It shows that you have the &#8220;heart of a teacher&#8221;, as Dave Ramsey would say. I love that!</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Terry</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Becky Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I earnestly and longingly hope that some day I can be still my pounding heart as I crazily and wistfully enter writing contests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I earnestly and longingly hope that some day I can be still my pounding heart as I crazily and wistfully enter writing contests.</p>
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		<title>By: Mid Stutsman</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12292</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this, Kaye. This was my first time for the Genesis contest and for receiving detailed critique. My scores were very high but obviously not high enough. One judge, who understood my story and was very excited about it, gave me the encouragement I needed to overcome the doubts that flooded in from not making the finals. Your perspective helped me see the other comments in a new light  ; ) This has been a great learning experience!
Blessings,
Mid]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this, Kaye. This was my first time for the Genesis contest and for receiving detailed critique. My scores were very high but obviously not high enough. One judge, who understood my story and was very excited about it, gave me the encouragement I needed to overcome the doubts that flooded in from not making the finals. Your perspective helped me see the other comments in a new light  ; ) This has been a great learning experience!<br />
Blessings,<br />
Mid</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Miller</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12291</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing the negative feedback you personally received with us and relating it to your judging comments.  I am sure everyone you judged will appreciate your empathy.

Good on you for making a teachable moment.  I am sure you will have a life-long impact on that writer&#039;s work.  I remember a couple comments from a judging sheet of a national speech contest I entered in high school that have forever improved my public speaking.  I had started my speech by having to adjust the mike stand (too high) and made some lame, chatty comments about it as I was doing it.  A judge pointed out that the first words out of my mouth should have been the strong opening of my speech - I distracted everyone from the impact of my words by my fumbled opening.  During the speech, I alluded to a struggle I went though, and much of my speech was based on overcoming that struggle, but I never named the issue! A judge wrote that talking openly about the struggle would have made my speech much more powerful.

All that to say, you never know how your constructive criticism will improve someone&#039;s skills.  In high school, I never imagined wanting to do much public speaking.  Now I speak in front of large groups regularly as the Education Coordinator for Rhode Island Right to Life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing the negative feedback you personally received with us and relating it to your judging comments.  I am sure everyone you judged will appreciate your empathy.</p>
<p>Good on you for making a teachable moment.  I am sure you will have a life-long impact on that writer&#8217;s work.  I remember a couple comments from a judging sheet of a national speech contest I entered in high school that have forever improved my public speaking.  I had started my speech by having to adjust the mike stand (too high) and made some lame, chatty comments about it as I was doing it.  A judge pointed out that the first words out of my mouth should have been the strong opening of my speech &#8211; I distracted everyone from the impact of my words by my fumbled opening.  During the speech, I alluded to a struggle I went though, and much of my speech was based on overcoming that struggle, but I never named the issue! A judge wrote that talking openly about the struggle would have made my speech much more powerful.</p>
<p>All that to say, you never know how your constructive criticism will improve someone&#8217;s skills.  In high school, I never imagined wanting to do much public speaking.  Now I speak in front of large groups regularly as the Education Coordinator for Rhode Island Right to Life.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12290</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay I&#039;m NOT a writer but let&#039;s face it, I know most people write because they like it and maybe most who want to get their stuff published probably want to be successful enough to write full time, so technically writing stories is their job, right? Well if this is so (it may not be but this is just my opinion) shouldn&#039;t they expect some criticism? I&#039;m sure we&#039;ve all experienced it in our jobs at the office, school, or whatever...but it&#039;s mostly CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, meant to help us do our jobs better! So aren&#039;t the judges and editors trying to help you succeed and get you to do the best you can do? I&#039;d want somebody to tell me what I need to do better! I guess when you put your book out there for everyone to see it reflects a part of you so wouldn&#039;t you want the book to be terrific? I&#039;d rather someone tell me the truth about my work and mark it up one side and down the other than tell me  it&#039;s excellent when in reality, it&#039;s not. Just my 2 cents!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay I&#8217;m NOT a writer but let&#8217;s face it, I know most people write because they like it and maybe most who want to get their stuff published probably want to be successful enough to write full time, so technically writing stories is their job, right? Well if this is so (it may not be but this is just my opinion) shouldn&#8217;t they expect some criticism? I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ve all experienced it in our jobs at the office, school, or whatever&#8230;but it&#8217;s mostly CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, meant to help us do our jobs better! So aren&#8217;t the judges and editors trying to help you succeed and get you to do the best you can do? I&#8217;d want somebody to tell me what I need to do better! I guess when you put your book out there for everyone to see it reflects a part of you so wouldn&#8217;t you want the book to be terrific? I&#8217;d rather someone tell me the truth about my work and mark it up one side and down the other than tell me  it&#8217;s excellent when in reality, it&#8217;s not. Just my 2 cents!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12289</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pounding hearts in every entry? Guilty! LOL. I have not had the nerve to open my results yet. When I read how many entries there were and considered how overwhelming that must have been -- I appreciate the judges volunteering their time even more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pounding hearts in every entry? Guilty! LOL. I have not had the nerve to open my results yet. When I read how many entries there were and considered how overwhelming that must have been &#8212; I appreciate the judges volunteering their time even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda Schab</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12288</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynda Schab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this, Kaye! I love hearing a judge&#039;s perspective. I will admit it surprises me to hear you say unpubbed authors score lower. I would have thought the opposite. Looking back at my NON-finaling Women&#039;s Fiction entry, I received a 98 (from a published author), a 95 from someone who didn&#039;t check the box, and a 69 (from another published author.) However, even that 69 was better than the average of those you judged. So you made my day!  Although, it seems like most judges don&#039;t mark that little box indicating who they are. The two judges I mentioned above were the ones ones (out of the 6 that judged my two entries) that left a checkmark. But I will also say that the judge who left the 69 also left the most feedback, which I truly appreciated!

But, anyway, you are so right...everyone has a different opinion. This is just preparing all of us unpublished authors for those editor responses  - when we get to that point (hopefully soon). :-)

Now I just need to get my thank you notes written. THANK YOU (and all of the other judges) for taking time out of your life to volunteer. You are MUCH appreciated!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Kaye! I love hearing a judge&#8217;s perspective. I will admit it surprises me to hear you say unpubbed authors score lower. I would have thought the opposite. Looking back at my NON-finaling Women&#8217;s Fiction entry, I received a 98 (from a published author), a 95 from someone who didn&#8217;t check the box, and a 69 (from another published author.) However, even that 69 was better than the average of those you judged. So you made my day!  Although, it seems like most judges don&#8217;t mark that little box indicating who they are. The two judges I mentioned above were the ones ones (out of the 6 that judged my two entries) that left a checkmark. But I will also say that the judge who left the 69 also left the most feedback, which I truly appreciated!</p>
<p>But, anyway, you are so right&#8230;everyone has a different opinion. This is just preparing all of us unpublished authors for those editor responses  &#8211; when we get to that point (hopefully soon). <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now I just need to get my thank you notes written. THANK YOU (and all of the other judges) for taking time out of your life to volunteer. You are MUCH appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Woodside</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12287</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patricia Woodside]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was just the post I needed today.  I finally opened my score sheets, which arrived in my email box several days ago.  Tired and rushed, I didn&#039;t want to look until I was ready to start processing it all.  Still not quite ready.

My 70&#039;s scores seem pretty decent.  Quick glance at judges&#039; comments seems to show quite a bit of disparity on what was good and what wasn&#039;t, but I&#039;m sure they will converge to some degree once I read the feedback in detail.

I applaud you for that &quot;teaching moment&quot;.  The person who scored in the 30s out of 100 needs your criticism more than the person with a 90.  I&#039;d wager their desire to write well is equal.  Maybe not right away, but eventually, that person will be grateful.  I know I would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was just the post I needed today.  I finally opened my score sheets, which arrived in my email box several days ago.  Tired and rushed, I didn&#8217;t want to look until I was ready to start processing it all.  Still not quite ready.</p>
<p>My 70&#8242;s scores seem pretty decent.  Quick glance at judges&#8217; comments seems to show quite a bit of disparity on what was good and what wasn&#8217;t, but I&#8217;m sure they will converge to some degree once I read the feedback in detail.</p>
<p>I applaud you for that &#8220;teaching moment&#8221;.  The person who scored in the 30s out of 100 needs your criticism more than the person with a 90.  I&#8217;d wager their desire to write well is equal.  Maybe not right away, but eventually, that person will be grateful.  I know I would.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Benton</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12286</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Benton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t enter the Genesis contests this year, but last year I did, and made it to third place in my category. My entry earned a wide range of variation in the scoring, between the first and second rounds, from a perfect score of 100 to one of 55. I just looked at my sheets, with your comment about the high/low scoring of published and unpublished judges, but not all of the judges for my entry declared themselves. It would have been interesting to make the comparison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t enter the Genesis contests this year, but last year I did, and made it to third place in my category. My entry earned a wide range of variation in the scoring, between the first and second rounds, from a perfect score of 100 to one of 55. I just looked at my sheets, with your comment about the high/low scoring of published and unpublished judges, but not all of the judges for my entry declared themselves. It would have been interesting to make the comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaye Dacus</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2009/05/20/contest-aftermath/#comment-12285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaye Dacus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jess--
Yes, I mean that all 14 entries had clichés AND all 14 entries had &quot;pounding heart&quot; clichés. 

And the reason why I spent four hours on the lowest-scoring entry is because I saw it as a teaching &quot;moment&quot;---as in, I couldn&#039;t score this person a 1 or 2 (out of 5) on each element without giving a really good explanation of why I&#039;d done it and how to correct it either in revisions or in the future. I sent back at least five pages of notes (much of it from series I&#039;ve done here on the blog) on the score sheet, in addition to the comments I made throughout the manuscript.

And why spend more time on the lowest scoring manuscript than the highest scoring manuscript? Because there isn&#039;t as much to say/comment upon. One of the hallmarks of a manuscript that&#039;s going to garner a higher score from me is that it doesn&#039;t take me very long to read, and once I finish my first read-through, there aren&#039;t many things I&#039;ve edited or commented upon---because the pages kept my interest for the full time I was reading it.

It&#039;s the same thing with reading published books. The ones we love, that we get pulled right into, that end up going on our &quot;favorites&quot; shelves, are the ones we read straight through in one or two sittings, ignoring everything else going on around us as much as possible. The ones that don&#039;t pull us in, that don&#039;t interest us as much, that have errors or problems in them that are obvious to us, are going to take us a lot longer to read simply because we don&#039;t want to do it for a very long period of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jess&#8211;<br />
Yes, I mean that all 14 entries had clichés AND all 14 entries had &#8220;pounding heart&#8221; clichés. </p>
<p>And the reason why I spent four hours on the lowest-scoring entry is because I saw it as a teaching &#8220;moment&#8221;&#8212;as in, I couldn&#8217;t score this person a 1 or 2 (out of 5) on each element without giving a really good explanation of why I&#8217;d done it and how to correct it either in revisions or in the future. I sent back at least five pages of notes (much of it from series I&#8217;ve done here on the blog) on the score sheet, in addition to the comments I made throughout the manuscript.</p>
<p>And why spend more time on the lowest scoring manuscript than the highest scoring manuscript? Because there isn&#8217;t as much to say/comment upon. One of the hallmarks of a manuscript that&#8217;s going to garner a higher score from me is that it doesn&#8217;t take me very long to read, and once I finish my first read-through, there aren&#8217;t many things I&#8217;ve edited or commented upon&#8212;because the pages kept my interest for the full time I was reading it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same thing with reading published books. The ones we love, that we get pulled right into, that end up going on our &#8220;favorites&#8221; shelves, are the ones we read straight through in one or two sittings, ignoring everything else going on around us as much as possible. The ones that don&#8217;t pull us in, that don&#8217;t interest us as much, that have errors or problems in them that are obvious to us, are going to take us a lot longer to read simply because we don&#8217;t want to do it for a very long period of time.</p>
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