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	<title>Comments on: Cultural References in Fiction</title>
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		<title>By: Kaye Dacus</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2008/01/17/cultural-references-in-fiction/#comment-8219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaye Dacus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure . . . but if someone used Tom Cruise in theirs five to ten years ago, look at what&#039;s  happened now. I can&#039;t even stand to look at the man, much less watch one of his movies. Ten years ago, George Clooney was a huge TV star; now he&#039;s a movie star. Or a reference to Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston---who seemed like the couple least-likely to separate---has now been proven false.

That&#039;s the problem with using &quot;living legends&quot; (unless they&#039;re really old), is that they&#039;re constantly changing. Yes, they would be the icons for the next generation or two---but positive or negative? We have no way of knowing who&#039;s going to have a melt-down or who&#039;s going to rise from obscurity to outshine them all. That&#039;s why using people who are already legends is safer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure . . . but if someone used Tom Cruise in theirs five to ten years ago, look at what&#8217;s  happened now. I can&#8217;t even stand to look at the man, much less watch one of his movies. Ten years ago, George Clooney was a huge TV star; now he&#8217;s a movie star. Or a reference to Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston&#8212;who seemed like the couple least-likely to separate&#8212;has now been proven false.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem with using &#8220;living legends&#8221; (unless they&#8217;re really old), is that they&#8217;re constantly changing. Yes, they would be the icons for the next generation or two&#8212;but positive or negative? We have no way of knowing who&#8217;s going to have a melt-down or who&#8217;s going to rise from obscurity to outshine them all. That&#8217;s why using people who are already legends is safer.</p>
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		<title>By: PatriciaW</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2008/01/17/cultural-references-in-fiction/#comment-8217</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want your contemporary fiction to have staying power, which means folks will read it years from now, won&#039;t today&#039;s stars be their icons without being too ancient?  The trick I guess is picking right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want your contemporary fiction to have staying power, which means folks will read it years from now, won&#8217;t today&#8217;s stars be their icons without being too ancient?  The trick I guess is picking right.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2008/01/17/cultural-references-in-fiction/#comment-8214</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, John Wayne in NORTH TO ALASKA is  such a fun movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, John Wayne in NORTH TO ALASKA is  such a fun movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Bradley</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2008/01/17/cultural-references-in-fiction/#comment-8208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I so agree with you, Kaye. Just two years can make a book seem so last century. :)

I&#039;m writing a series with pro athletes and one thing I&#039;m specifically not doing is mentioning current players because it will date my book. I name one player in my first book, a legendary pitcher from almost a hundred years ago, for the same reason you say--in the baseball world, he&#039;s an icon and always will be.

Actually, as I think about it, I do mention one legendary pitcher who may now be tainted by the George Mitchell report. Hm, may have to go change that line!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so agree with you, Kaye. Just two years can make a book seem so last century. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing a series with pro athletes and one thing I&#8217;m specifically not doing is mentioning current players because it will date my book. I name one player in my first book, a legendary pitcher from almost a hundred years ago, for the same reason you say&#8211;in the baseball world, he&#8217;s an icon and always will be.</p>
<p>Actually, as I think about it, I do mention one legendary pitcher who may now be tainted by the George Mitchell report. Hm, may have to go change that line!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2008/01/17/cultural-references-in-fiction/#comment-8206</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you seen McClintock? If not, you MUST put that one at the top of your list. The Duke and Maureen again and the finest comedy-western ever produced.

&quot;Ah, McClin! Great party. No whiskey. We go home now.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen McClintock? If not, you MUST put that one at the top of your list. The Duke and Maureen again and the finest comedy-western ever produced.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ah, McClin! Great party. No whiskey. We go home now.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaye Dacus</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2008/01/17/cultural-references-in-fiction/#comment-8205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaye Dacus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All fiction contains cultural references, whether intentional or not. I needed this to be intentional, since it is such a main feature of the first book. I wanted this one to have a similar feel to it, so that it&#039;s not just taking two characters from the first book and telling their story in a second book, but it actually has similar elements to it, which in this instance is the cultural reference.

Cultural reference can be anything from activities to celebrities to the classic literature a character reads . . . they&#039;re markers that, whether consciously or subconsciously, either ground a reader in the setting or give a tidbit of information about the character in question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All fiction contains cultural references, whether intentional or not. I needed this to be intentional, since it is such a main feature of the first book. I wanted this one to have a similar feel to it, so that it&#8217;s not just taking two characters from the first book and telling their story in a second book, but it actually has similar elements to it, which in this instance is the cultural reference.</p>
<p>Cultural reference can be anything from activities to celebrities to the classic literature a character reads . . . they&#8217;re markers that, whether consciously or subconsciously, either ground a reader in the setting or give a tidbit of information about the character in question.</p>
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		<title>By: PatriciaW</title>
		<link>http://kayedacus.com/2008/01/17/cultural-references-in-fiction/#comment-8204</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PatriciaW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you think every book needs cultural references?  I&#039;m not sure whether my last story did.  I guess I&#039;d say sports teams.

I think this comes out of relationship, i.e. out of shared experience.  Sometimes I read books with references like these and they feel contrived, as you say.  Other times, they fit because of the characters.  When the reference is used in such a way as to help me know the characters better or as a jumping off point for a major plot point, then it works better than just throwing stuff in, as in chick-lit sometimes.  In that case, it&#039;d be better to leave the cultural references out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think every book needs cultural references?  I&#8217;m not sure whether my last story did.  I guess I&#8217;d say sports teams.</p>
<p>I think this comes out of relationship, i.e. out of shared experience.  Sometimes I read books with references like these and they feel contrived, as you say.  Other times, they fit because of the characters.  When the reference is used in such a way as to help me know the characters better or as a jumping off point for a major plot point, then it works better than just throwing stuff in, as in chick-lit sometimes.  In that case, it&#8217;d be better to leave the cultural references out.</p>
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